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		<title>By: Dimitris</title>
		<link>http://aaron.jorb.in/blog/2010/07/the-10-most-important-people-in-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-945</link>
		<dc:creator>Dimitris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that there&#039;s a competition going on but people might want to use this list &lt;a href=&quot;http://listiki.com/most-important-wordpress-people/&quot;&gt; to keep track of people important in Wordpress, perhaps add more and - why not? - provide some sort of (further) satisfaction for those on the list if they see their work acknowledged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that there&#8217;s a competition going on but people might want to use this list <a href="http://listiki.com/most-important-wordpress-people/"> to keep track of people important in WordPress, perhaps add more and &#8211; why not? &#8211; provide some sort of (further) satisfaction for those on the list if they see their work acknowledged.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mad Tomato</title>
		<link>http://aaron.jorb.in/blog/2010/07/the-10-most-important-people-in-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Tomato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 02:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. Why is there no Chris Pearson on the list??!  How could you?  He is one of the top three most important figures in the history of WordPressssssss!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. Why is there no Chris Pearson on the list??!  How could you?  He is one of the top three most important figures in the history of WordPressssssss!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Clay</title>
		<link>http://aaron.jorb.in/blog/2010/07/the-10-most-important-people-in-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-894</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donncha +10</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donncha +10</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Rice</title>
		<link>http://aaron.jorb.in/blog/2010/07/the-10-most-important-people-in-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-891</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sorry, I really think that the phrase “Premium theme” devalues every other theme&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, sorry about that. I try to use the word &quot;commercial&quot; as much as possible. Old habits.

&lt;blockquote&gt;As Andy pointed out, most functionality that commercial themes deliver is available for free from plugins and free (as in beer) themes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Certainly. But commercial themes don&#039;t just sell well because they&#039;re offering functionality you can&#039;t get anywhere else. It&#039;s the fact that it&#039;s all in one … convenient, centrally maintained and supported. Don&#039;t underestimate the value in that. It&#039;s huge.

Also design. I tend to downplay it. It frustrates me that users are so impressed with shiny things, while ignoring the hard work that really matters. But still, I don&#039;t think you can legitimately claim that the free market offers the level of design quality and variety that the commercial theme market does. In fact, it could be reasonably argued that sexy design is what ignited the commercial theme market in the first place.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I do think that Commercial theme developers are good, but I think that they are no more important than any other theme developer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ll give you that. There are about as many &quot;good&quot; free themes as there are &quot;good&quot; commercial themes (not very many). And there are only about 5 truly &quot;great&quot; themes, period (some free, some commercial).

(I obviously would judge a theme&#039;s greatness on a different scale than others might. I&#039;m not one of those &quot;eye of the beholder&quot; types. To me, there is an objectively right, and objectively wrong way of building a WordPress theme, or any website, for that matter).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sorry, I really think that the phrase “Premium theme” devalues every other theme</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, sorry about that. I try to use the word &#8220;commercial&#8221; as much as possible. Old habits.</p>
<blockquote><p>As Andy pointed out, most functionality that commercial themes deliver is available for free from plugins and free (as in beer) themes.</p></blockquote>
<p>Certainly. But commercial themes don&#8217;t just sell well because they&#8217;re offering functionality you can&#8217;t get anywhere else. It&#8217;s the fact that it&#8217;s all in one … convenient, centrally maintained and supported. Don&#8217;t underestimate the value in that. It&#8217;s huge.</p>
<p>Also design. I tend to downplay it. It frustrates me that users are so impressed with shiny things, while ignoring the hard work that really matters. But still, I don&#8217;t think you can legitimately claim that the free market offers the level of design quality and variety that the commercial theme market does. In fact, it could be reasonably argued that sexy design is what ignited the commercial theme market in the first place.</p>
<blockquote><p>I do think that Commercial theme developers are good, but I think that they are no more important than any other theme developer.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll give you that. There are about as many &#8220;good&#8221; free themes as there are &#8220;good&#8221; commercial themes (not very many). And there are only about 5 truly &#8220;great&#8221; themes, period (some free, some commercial).</p>
<p>(I obviously would judge a theme&#8217;s greatness on a different scale than others might. I&#8217;m not one of those &#8220;eye of the beholder&#8221; types. To me, there is an objectively right, and objectively wrong way of building a WordPress theme, or any website, for that matter).</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Rice</title>
		<link>http://aaron.jorb.in/blog/2010/07/the-10-most-important-people-in-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-890</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A lot of the features touted on sales pages are just duplicating plugin functionality.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

True enough. But I would contend that there are some things that plugins can&#039;t do at all, and other things that they can&#039;t do very well. Especially in terms of what gets served up to the browser. That is, by nature, a theme&#039;s job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A lot of the features touted on sales pages are just duplicating plugin functionality.</p></blockquote>
<p>True enough. But I would contend that there are some things that plugins can&#8217;t do at all, and other things that they can&#8217;t do very well. Especially in terms of what gets served up to the browser. That is, by nature, a theme&#8217;s job.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Jorbin</title>
		<link>http://aaron.jorb.in/blog/2010/07/the-10-most-important-people-in-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-888</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Jorbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The social influence?  How about the millions of people that read the release announcements and wordpress.org blog posts that are written by many of these people?  How about the ten million page views since may of 2007 that ma.tt (just one of the places that Matt Mullenweg posts) has had?   There is much more to influence then twitter followers.  

Also, the reason patches are needed is to actually improve the software.  How does posting 140 character messages improve WordPress?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The social influence?  How about the millions of people that read the release announcements and wordpress.org blog posts that are written by many of these people?  How about the ten million page views since may of 2007 that ma.tt (just one of the places that Matt Mullenweg posts) has had?   There is much more to influence then twitter followers.  </p>
<p>Also, the reason patches are needed is to actually improve the software.  How does posting 140 character messages improve WordPress?</p>
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		<title>By: twitter boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>twitter boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did you read my post? I was making a point about  &quot;the social influence&quot;.  Patches to core?  Please.  Why does it need so many patches?   Because of the people on this list I imagine.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did you read my post? I was making a point about  &#8220;the social influence&#8221;.  Patches to core?  Please.  Why does it need so many patches?   Because of the people on this list I imagine&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Jorbin</title>
		<link>http://aaron.jorb.in/blog/2010/07/the-10-most-important-people-in-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-885</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Jorbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are giving to much credit to commercial theme developers (Sorry, I really think that the phrase &quot;Premium theme&quot; devalues every other theme.).  As Andy pointed out, most functionality that commercial themes deliver is available for free from plugins and free (as in beer) themes.   

I also think the People want to pay for stuff argument is a load of crock.  People think they are getting more value (which they are not) or something that is unique (which based on the sales figures you give is also false).  I&#039;m not saying people are being bamboozled or mislead, but I do think that they aren&#039;t always making the most informed decision.  

Like Andy, I also download Thematic via SVN.  The fact that the theme repository to the best of my knowledge doesn&#039;t count SVN checkouts also makes it hard to measure their true impact.  Oh, and if number of downloads is all that counts, Kubrick was downloaded how many tens of millions of times?

I do think that Commercial theme developers are good, but I think that they are no more important than any other theme developer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are giving to much credit to commercial theme developers (Sorry, I really think that the phrase &#8220;Premium theme&#8221; devalues every other theme.).  As Andy pointed out, most functionality that commercial themes deliver is available for free from plugins and free (as in beer) themes.   </p>
<p>I also think the People want to pay for stuff argument is a load of crock.  People think they are getting more value (which they are not) or something that is unique (which based on the sales figures you give is also false).  I&#8217;m not saying people are being bamboozled or mislead, but I do think that they aren&#8217;t always making the most informed decision.  </p>
<p>Like Andy, I also download Thematic via SVN.  The fact that the theme repository to the best of my knowledge doesn&#8217;t count SVN checkouts also makes it hard to measure their true impact.  Oh, and if number of downloads is all that counts, Kubrick was downloaded how many tens of millions of times?</p>
<p>I do think that Commercial theme developers are good, but I think that they are no more important than any other theme developer.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Jorbin</title>
		<link>http://aaron.jorb.in/blog/2010/07/the-10-most-important-people-in-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-880</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Jorbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twitter followers is hardly a useful metric for how important someone is to WordPress.  Patches to core is a much better metric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twitter followers is hardly a useful metric for how important someone is to WordPress.  Patches to core is a much better metric.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey</title>
		<link>http://aaron.jorb.in/blog/2010/07/the-10-most-important-people-in-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-879</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should be &#039;our&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should be &#8216;our&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey</title>
		<link>http://aaron.jorb.in/blog/2010/07/the-10-most-important-people-in-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-878</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I chuckled. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I chuckled. <img src='http://aaron.jorb.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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